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| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/22/2008 10:48:27 AM | show profile Yeah, I'm getting tired too, of the LEFTY LIBS whining about people POINTING out the fact that the oM (old media) is baptizing themselves in the name of The Obamanation. You poor pathetic LEFTIES can't stand even the most remote sound of dissent. Next Please! |
| chucho | Posted – 7/22/2008 11:27:54 AM | show profile Phil Gramm sez we're a nation of whiners and the recession is part of our whiny imagination, so I guess we're only being consistent with the views of McCain's would-be Treasury Secretary and long0time political ally. PS: I've heard plenty of criticism of Obama after he voted to help to plow under First Amendment rights to illegal search. Your paranoia is in your head, or you are giving way too much credence to things you see on the Boob Tube. Put down that remote control and salvage what's left of your own independent thought. It is possible to reverse the damage, you know. |
| mkelly | Posted – 7/22/2008 1:35:14 PM | show profile Don't bother with this thread, Chucho; this guy apparently is just a troll looking to annoy people. |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/22/2008 4:42:57 PM | show profile Yeah, that's it. Instead of a rebuttal you come with the typical empty handed LEFTY LIB response. Yawn. Next Please! |
| noname1234 | Posted – 7/22/2008 5:15:05 PM | show profile Guy, you keep demanding REBUTTALS -- what exactly is supposed to be rebutted? If you want to start a debate, you need to do more than hurl out some completely vague accusation with no details, no facts, no dates, etc. It's up to YOU to take the time to assemble some specific examples of what you're talking about if you really are interested in spurring a viable discussion. |
| Stanley_Milgram | Posted – 7/22/2008 7:55:25 PM | show profile y'ever notice how when stupid little children learn a new word or phrase, they walk around and repeat it everywhere and anywhere they can? |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/22/2008 8:28:59 PM | show profile Well Stanley, it appears you've discovered the word "y'ever". Hahahahaha, you poor LEFTIES, always found wanting and falling into your own traps. Next Please! |
| chucho | Posted – 7/23/2008 3:57:06 PM | show profile So, Guy, when McCain gets his ass served to him in November, you're going to blame the media, right? Because you think Americans are so stuoopid that unless MSNBC gives McCain equal time and Chris Matthews stops orally pleasuring Obama then the Americans will stoopidly vote for the candidate they wouldn't have otherwise voted for? And liberals are the elitists? I'll think about that the next time I see Bill O'Reilly step out of his chauffeured luxury car at the steps of NewsCorp in the heart of Manhattan. My argument has been and continues to be that most of media just sniff the wind of public sentiment, then with no ideology except that which sells advertisements, serves the public what they want. You're argument is that unless the media plays fair McCain will be robbed because the American people are just sheep that does whatever MSNBC wants them to. It's funny how I'm constantly reminding lefties and rightists from their respective peanut galleries that the media is not that powerful. You're just as bad as the "Democracy Now" idiots that think if Fox News reported the "truth" the entire nation of sheep-minded Americans would all start thinking like Noam Chomsky. Well, guess what: no matter how much you're going to bicker and whine like a pretentious, sarcastic little man about the media's bias for Obama, if McCain loses it will be because people are fed up with the policies he proposes, not because Keith Olberman hypnotized a nation. |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/23/2008 5:17:37 PM | show profile chucho Posted ? 7/23/2008 3:57:06 PM | show profile So, Guy, when McCain gets his ass served to him in November, you're going to blame the media, right? ____________________________________ And who will you blame when you discover The Obamanation didn't win? I blame the Axis Media for what they do, not what voters do. Voters are to blame for their choices, the Axis Media is to blame for misusing their influence in the biased manner in which they do. I have no contention that the GOP has a less than ideal candidate with McCain. However, with The Obamanation being an extreme LEFTIST, I do blame the Axis Media for failing to honestly confront this and admit it in order to consciously aid his campaign. But you, friend, will only have YOURSELF to blame for being out of touch with reality in November when enough voters demonstrate enough good reason to choose the predictability in McCain over the dangerous Marxist leanings of The Obamanation. |
| chucho | Posted – 7/23/2008 5:26:31 PM | show profile So remind me then why you keep whining about the Axis Media if McCain is going to win? What difference does it make? Does it give you a boner to feel like some poor, underrepresented minority? Oh, wait, I guess that's what you are: the minority of people who categorize politics into artificial us vs. them polemics. If Obama is a Marxist, monkeys are currently flying out of my ass play accordions. You need to go back to college, assuming you went to college, and take some political philosophy courses. |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/23/2008 5:50:57 PM | show profile chucho Posted ? 7/23/2008 5:26:31 PM | show profile If Obama is a Marxist, monkeys are currently flying out of my ass __________________________________________ Well, don't look now but your britches are split wide open and your ass appears to be giving birth to monkeys with wings. Hahahahahahaha! The point about the Axis media is just what it is, they are biased, they claim objectivity, they do have influence over information and McCain has a legitimate beef. Now, go put a diaper on and hope you can stop flying monkeys from coming out of your ass. Next Please! |
| chucho | Posted – 7/23/2008 6:14:40 PM | show profile Real liberals question authority. So do real journalists. Conservatives defer to authority. Real journalists do not. |
| mkelly | Posted – 7/24/2008 9:57:42 AM | show profile Jesus, now you both sound like idiots. Can't you take this discussion elsewhere? |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 7/24/2008 10:21:57 AM | show profile mkelly Posted ? 7/22/2008 1:35:14 PM | show profile Don't bother with this thread, Chucho; this guy apparently is just a troll looking to annoy people. ______________________________________ And yes, you're just above it all, aren't you? Oh wait, you aren't, you just imagine you are. You came back to this thread after trying to tell someone else NOT to come to this thread, just to pontificate. Gawd you poor self-important narcissists, you're all alike. You always want to tell everyone what to do and what is best for them and then go right on doing what you just prescribed for others NOT to do. Hahahaha. Next Please! |
| david.gordon14 | Posted – 8/1/2008 12:31:32 PM | show profile There's no way that the media are biased one way or another politically. They are in the business of attracting viewers and selling advertisements. They will pitch stories to whatever segment of the market they believe they can reach with the most efficacy. On politics, this usually swings to the left. People like to hear about social plans and things that are going to be good for them. Democrats and left-leaning politicians get more attention because these are the things they talk about. No one wants to hear about responsible fiscal policy, mutually beneficial exchange, or deregulated business, it's boring. Furthermore, Obama has been getting the lion's share of screentime because he's a charismatic handsome person, and he's just brimming over with sound bites. Just take one look at McCain. You can barely put that man on television! He's hideous! ------ powerapplications.com |
| chucho | Posted – 8/1/2008 1:07:24 PM | show profile >> There's no way that the media are biased one way or another politically. << I disagree. The media will hold political biases on legislation that affect them or their major sponsors. Perfect example was GE owned (80% controlling stake) NBC shutting out Kucinich from the debate in (I forget the state, I think it was Wyoming) -- they decided NOT to show the entire debate on general access because they would have had to allow Kucinich in. Instead they decided to only show it on MSNBC so it wouldn't have to abide by the same rules (NBC had intiially accepted Kucinich, and then it un-invited him, which is illegal under general broadcast rules, but not on cable). Kucinich is a big critic of GE and has consistently called for legislation that would not be beneficial to the company. It reminds me of that time Harvey Pekar was banned from David Letterman for years because he wore a T-shirt calling to boycott GE for its military contracts. The Monsanto case with a Fox affiliate in Florida -- the one where the Supreme Court said it was OK for FOX to call itself news even though it was consciously editing out factual information from reporters' copy that was critical of Monsanto, a major advertiser. (The reporters sued.) So, no the media does carry some political biases. Definitely. Even in a more general sense you could say the foriegn coverage in a paper like the New York Times "writes to the audiences' expectations". Judith Millers' shit reporting that ended up on Page One all the time was the NYT's attempts to write in favor of public opinion -- because at the time it was very popular to beleive that Hussein was teetering on making Iraq the Middle East's second nuclear power (after Israel). I read a thesis in college that questioned the popular notion that the media helped bring an end to Vietnam -- it very convincingly pointed out that the body bags didn't start showing up on nightly news broadcasts until AFTER events like Kent State. This may not be a political bias per se, but media is pretty good at affirming the moment's prevailing public opinion, even if the public opinion is wrong. In that regard I think you make a valid point: affirming public opinion (or at least the opinion of the bulk of your viewers or readers or listeners) makes your shows or network popular, which raises ratings, which increases ad revenue. Sometimes this works at the expense of the truth, though in the case of Fox News the truth can be relevant since much of it's programming is opinion based and character driven. (Although all the networks are guilty of this cult of personality and opinion-slinging, I find Fox News to be by far the worst offender.) |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 8/3/2008 12:07:23 PM | show profile MSNBC is like a cartoon, but not even funny. The LEFTY LIB channel. |
| Guyarthurthomas | Posted – 8/3/2008 4:02:32 PM | show profile And now the Daily Kos Kids are crying in their soup about fLiP fLoP Obamanation. Time for the LEFTY LIBS to start eating their own. |
| Lola la la la Lola | Posted – 8/3/2008 11:09:12 PM | show profile ey thaire pardner! ma name is mister Guy Arthur Thomas and i enjoy sittin' on tha porch of ma cabin, rockin' to 'n fro on ma rockin' chair 'n shootin' dem lefty libs who wander down yonder ma areya. In ma spare time i enjoy starin' at the stump of a hickory tree. |
